Need some help

[VonKlock]

Yesterday I started my 2013 T100 ( EFI) normally and went for a ride. After about 2 miles the low oil pressure light came on and the engine shut off. It would not restart and the low pressure oil switch flashed rapidly. I pushed it home, and realized that with the bike level I was indeed a quart low. ( The bike only has 130 miles on it and is garage kept) I added the oil, but now its very hard to start, you have to put the choke on to get it to run at all, and seems like the engine is misfiring. If you shut the choke off the engine dies.
I’ve disconnected my battery over night hoping something in the cpu needed to be re set.
Has anyone experienced this problem before?
And yes shame on me for letting my oil get that low. Thanks in advance.

 

[triumph david]

That's a tough one to solve on line, change the oil filter bring the oil up to the mark and try again, almost sounds like the engine was low enough on oil for engine damage to occur.

 

[Greyfell]

( The bike only has 130 miles on it and is garage kept)

Seriously, a 2013 bike has only 130 miles on it? That's amazing! Where did you find it?

 

[Snakesfield]

Does it turn over at all or is it frozen up? Also, how much oil did you have in the bike, before you added more? If it was only a quart low, the worst that should have happened. Would be, that you lost your rings and possibly have damaged your values, value guides and springs. One thing that you could do? Is to try and start it again. After, pulling the plugs, checks those out and make sure that they're not saturated with oil. Then clean them up a little make sure the gap is right too, and dip them into gasoline. Then put them back in the bike and try to start it again. If that doesn't work. I think you might need some engine work and that would require a long conversation and I don't have that much time, to go into today. But, go to YouTube and do some researching there, about your problem. They're a great treasure trove of info, their too. But, I'm sure one of our members here, can help you out also. But, like triumph david said. That's a hard one, to do on line. If all else fell's, try and find a good motorcycle shop to take it too and make sure that they can work on your bike also, because not everybody works on Triumphs, and getting parts can be a nightmare too. They're also very expensive too and try and avoid the dealer, if you can. Because, they're going to be expensive and if they have to order parts and it sounds like, they might have too, also. Triumph parts are not cheap either, and the dealer will tack on an extra %, so that they can make money off the parts, too. If you have to take it into the shop. Just find out what is wrong with the bike, buy having them run a diagnostic test on it. You don't have to let them fix it. You just need the codes, to get the parts that you might need to make the repairs. Make sure that you shop around too, for your parts. Look at the Triumph website, to get an idea of what a new OEM prices are going for? Also, see if they make any after, market parts too? But, they should be able to find out what the codes are, with the computer. To find out what's giving you problems, on that bike. I hope this helps.

 

[VonKlock]

Does it turn over at all or is it frozen up? Also, how much oil did you have in the bike, before you added more? If it was only a quart low, the worst that should have happened. Would be, that you lost your rings and possibly have damaged your values, value guides and springs. One thing that you could do? Is to try and start it again. After, pulling the plugs, checks those out and make sure that they're not saturated with oil. Then clean them up a little make sure the gap is right too, and dip them into gasoline. Then put them back in the bike and try to start it again. If that doesn't work. I think you might need some engine work and that would require a long conversation and I don't have that much time, to go into today. But, go to YouTube and do some researching there, about your problem. They're a great treasure trove of info, their too. But, I'm sure one of our members here, can help you out also. But, like triumph david said. That's a hard one, to do on line. If all else fell's, try and find a good motorcycle shop to take it too and make sure that they can work on your bike also, because not everybody works on Triumphs, and getting parts can be a nightmare too. They're also very expensive too and try and avoid the dealer, if you can. Because, they're going to be expensive and if they have to order parts and it sounds like, they might have too, also. Triumph parts are not cheap either, and the dealer will tack on an extra %, so that they can make money off the parts, too. If you have to take it into the shop. Just find out what is wrong with the bike, buy having them run a diagnostic test on it. You don't have to let them fix it. You just need the codes, to get the parts that you might need to make the repairs. Make sure that you shop around too, for your parts. Look at the Triumph website, to get an idea of what a new OEM prices are going for? Also, see if they make any after, market parts too? But, they should be able to find out what the codes are, with the computer. To find out what's giving you problems, on that bike. I hope this helps.

Thanks for input!
I believe the low pressure switch did exactly what it what designed to do, and that was to kill the engine. There’s no indication of catastrophic failure nor did it any make any such noises, the light came on the bike shut off. I added one full quart of engine oil, the level mark is full so I left with 2 quarts in the engine. The bike cranks normally, The Check engine light never came on only the oil pressure light, once I filled the oil level that light shut off. It just won’t start.

 

[Snakesfield]

This is just IMO. But, take the bike into a good mechanic that knows how to work on the newer Triumphs and is equipped to work on them. Because, more than likely, they're going to have to use a computer. That motorcycle mechanics use these days, to find the codes, to fix your problem. Just like car mechanics do. To find out what the codes are. You're going to have to find out what the codes are, to find and fix the problem. Note : I'd try and avoid taking it into the dealer, if you can. Because, they are going to charge you, like there's no tomorrow, then they'll nail you hard, on the parts too. Then you might have to wait for about a month to get the parts, if they're not in their Georgia warehouse. Then, they have to order everything, from England. The new Triumphs are really great bikes. I know that, I really love mine a lot and I'm really sorry that happened to you. I'd try to find out what's wrong with it, if you can, then buy the parts that you need to fix it with and shop around like on eBay, swap meets. Just check around, they're out there and a lot cheaper too, than what Triumph wants for them. The dealer makes you pay for the parts in full, even before they order them. I can see a deposit, but why make somebody pay for the part, then order it and you have to wait three weeks, or more to get the parts and they never call you when they come in either, to tell you there in. You just have to call every week, to check out the status, on what's going on with the parts that you already paid for. It's the only thing that really upsets me about Triumph. If you call them, to check on your parts, you get attitude. That's what really turns people off, it's that kind of nonsense, that makes people not want to come back. IMO, if you make a high quality motorcycle like Triumph is. You make your customers happy, so they will tell their friends about what a great time, they had at the dealer, how good they made you fill, then you want might want to come back and but stuff from them. To support them, plus they'll sell more bikes too. But with a snotty attitude, like I'm doing you a favor, for just coming in. Is just plain nonsense. That's why I avoid dealers, unless I have no choice.

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[VonKlock]

I’m going to try and tackle it myself, I’ve disconnect the battery hoping it would be a CPU glitch, it it wasn’t. After I reconnected the battery I tried starting it. It cranks normally, but to me, I’m thinking maybe it’s actually a fuel issue. I really don’t drive this bike often, it’s the Steve McQueen edition T100, and I am the original owner. It could be bad fuel, or fuel system issue. I watched a video yesterday of a guy removing his fuel pump on a Bonneville. I was rather shocked to see that not only does it have a filter, but two fuel strainers, one course and one fine. His fuel strainer at the mouth of the electric fuel pump was full of debris. So that’s where I’m going to start. Cheers!

 

[Qship]

Does sound like it could be fuel issues. Where your bike is 8-9 years old and hardly any mileage, it's possible the tank needs a small cleaning and fuel system as well.
Seafoam works quite well as an upper engine cleaner and fuel system cleaner.
Do you keep the tank filled with fresh fuel and if not "fresh" at least a fuel stabilizer in it?

 

[VonKlock]

Does sound like it could be fuel issues. Where your bike is 8-9 years old and hardly any mileage, it's possible the tank needs a small cleaning and fuel system as well.
Seafoam works quite well as an upper engine cleaner and fuel system cleaner.
Do you keep the tank filled with fresh fuel and if not "fresh" at least a fuel stabilizer in it?

Currently it’s half full, and no I didn’t use stabilizer.

 

[triumph david]

Try going over all the basics, check plugs, every filter ect., it should not be so bad that it doesn't run. Try to get it to hit on starting fluid, if it does thats where you should start troubleshooting.

 

[Snakesfield]

If the bike is a 2013 and only has such low mileage on it, that does sound like bad fuel. After a while, fuel turns to something like almost varnish and that would explain what's going on. That's a bummer too. Because, you might have clean out your whole fuel injection system. If your a good mechanic, it shouldn't be a problem. Otherwise on that one, I'd take it into the shop and have them do it. Because fuel injection systems, can be a pain to clean out. There's also a chance that you might have to replace your injectors. I had to replace all of them on my Nissan 300ZX at the cost of 2,500 bucks and that was for a V6. They cost me around 235.00 each injector. The guy that you bought it from, should have started it more or used a fuel stabilizer. Anyway good luck and I wish you the very best, on getting it repaired and up in running again very soon.

 

[VonKlock]

Well yesterday I replace the fuel filter, hoses, strainer and fuel in the gas tank. Same problem. The bike actually started and idled, then got progressively worse. I did someone searching online, and found 2 owners with a similar problem. The first guy had a ECU problem, the second guy said that the Triumph coils are prone to failure, once they "warm up" the secondary high voltage side breaks down. I found a good used working Triumph ECU with the same part# 1290165 and tune: 020506.hex and was manufactured one month after my original. I also ordered a Nology coil. To be continued....

 

[CarlS]

Be sure to updates us.

 

[Snakesfield]

Have you checked out your injectors, to make sure that they are not clogged? No disrespect, but instead of doing all that guess work. Wouldn't it be easier to have a diagnostic test run on the bike. There not that expensive to have done. Then instead of doing all that guess work, you would know exactly, what you're problem is and fix it yourself then. Just IMO.

 

[VonKlock]

Nology ignition coil arrived yesterday. No where in the description did it say that you can't use you stock spark plug wires!

 

[VonKlock]

Have you checked out your injectors, to make sure that they are not clogged? No disrespect, but instead of doing all that guess work. Wouldn't it be easier to have a diagnostic test run on the bike. There not that expensive to have done. Then instead of doing all that guess work, you would know exactly, what you're problem is and fix it yourself then. Just IMO.

I hear what your saying, but the $100+ per/hour labor rate is indeed expensive. I'm in the service business myself, and if fact we charge $150.00/ per hour. And I know that not every service tech is a Class A tech. I'll fix it myself.

 

[Snakesfield]

I think your taking me wrong. I understand what you're saying about the labor cost and about the mechanic may not be top notch, either. But you only need him to run the diagnostic test. then you can fix it yourself. that's all I was saying. Unless you just really dig tearing it apart and doing all that guess work. When you could have a diagnostic test run on it for around 70.00 to a 100.00 bucks. But it's not by the hour. It's for the whole test. Since they all seem to have computers in them now days, with all these codes. All that I mean is, have the test run, then you will know exactly what is wrong. Then do all the repairs yourself. Also, check out eBay for parts, if you need them. They have a lot of OEM Triumph parts for sell, at great prices. I bought a really nice 2018 OEM side cover for my bobber there. That Triumph wanted 250.00 for and I got it for 50.00 bucks on eBay. It was an OEM side cover too, that I had to change the decal on and that was all. The Auto Zone does free diagnostic test, but I don't know if they have the codes for Triumphs though? But that's what I meant. I don't usually don't trust mechanics myself either unless I know them or have seen their work and build up a report with them. But all in all, I would rather do the work myself also.

 

[VonKlock]

No worries mate, I enjoy the challenge, regardless of how frustrating it may be. Plus I really don't want to rent a trailer to tow to the dealer, not yet anyway.

 

[CarlS]

Please keep us update on what you find.

 

[Snakesfield]

No worries mate, I enjoy the challenge, regardless of how frustrating it may be. Plus I really don't want to rent a trailer to tow to the dealer, not yet anyway.

I totally understand. Plus you're learning a lot about your bike, by doing it that way also. I used to know this guy and he really loved tweaking, on his motorcycle. I think it was an early 1960s Triumph 650 Bonneville. The dudes name was Greg and man, did he love working on that bike. He got so good at working on it. That he knew the bike inside and out. So, I understand what you're saying. Good luck and keep us informed please.