2024 Triumph Tiger 1200 Review | First Look

[Vector]

None at Eurocycle and they are a big dealership.

 

[turbohawk]

None at Eurocycle and they are a big dealership.

2025 models will be announced in what? 3 to 4 months from now or even earlier? I think this is bizarre and all the dealer staff are mum about it. Bizarre for sure.

 

[Vector]

Perhaps the factory is holding back due to defect or parts availability.

 

[Qship]

Parts availability is definitely an issue these days. Globally

 

[sikatri]

Parts availability is definitely an issue these days. Globally

It is and here’s something of the reasons.

Electronic Component Shortage 2024: Outlook & Survival Plan

The electronic component shortage remains in 2024, and your supply chain is still at risk. Read this definitive outlook & survival plan for delays:

simcona.com

It’s telling that the less technologically based models are available and the high end or the newest with high tech components are not. Perhaps Triumph and others should have kept a solid line of low technology basic motorcycles in their lineup.
Also repairs lag.

Car parts shortage leaves drivers in limbo as makers ‘put sales first’

Motorists are waiting months for repairs, or having cars written off, because replacement parts apparently cannot be found. But are they just being fobbed off?

www.theguardian.com

Y’all can Google more, but it’s clear that this is a global problem across the board and not just a single company like Triumph. Blaming any company at this point isn’t exactly fair. Blame the reasons the shortages are here and hope they get addressed sooner than later. So if a dealer or parts person doesn’t have any idea when even a simple part might be in stock, you might just want to give them the benefit of the doubt that they are actually telling you the truth.

 

[sikatri]

This discussion perhaps should have been in another thread all by itself. But, since Harley Davidson has been mentioned as having parts, don’t bet on it lasting.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/harley-davidson-suspends-production-pennsylvania-plant-due-parts-shortage-2023-06-08/

If you own a motorcycle of any make motorcycle and parts are available, stock up on typical parts you might need for service now. Just my tip.
A bit more:

How the Microchip Shortage is Impacting the Motorcycle Industry

Microchip shortage impacting motorcycle industry. Used motorcycles are at a premium. Peterson's H-D now offering best prices in its history for used motorcycles

petersonsharley.com

To be clear, I’m not picking on HD, these effect all motorcycle manufacturers and all manufacturers of all types.
And lastly this:

Why is There a Shortage of Motorcycle Parts - nbtenact

<p>Find about why there is shortage of motorcycle parts now a days!</p>

www.nbtenact.com

 

[Vector]

I’m hoping the new Triumph dealer opening next month just 30 miles away is a professional shop. They have been a ATV dealer for years and have a good reputation.
I stopped by and they seem like good people.
Maybe they will improve my attitude

 

[sikatri]

I’m hoping the new Triumph dealer opening next month just 30 miles away is a professional shop. They have been a ATV dealer for years and have a good reputation.
I stopped by and they seem like good people.
Maybe they will improve my attitude

Hopefully and perhaps, but I wouldn’t count on better availability on motorcycle models or parts. This issue is global.

 

[turbohawk]

Perhaps all these wars going on is the culprit more than anyone wants to let on? Is there anyway we can convince Triumph that it makes great business sense to open up a parts/motorcycle plant in North America so we as one of their biggest customers (and growing) won't be wishing we'd bought a Harley when we can't even get clutch cover gaskets?

 

[sikatri]

Perhaps all these wars going on is the culprit more than anyone wants to let on? Is there anyway we can convince Triumph that it makes great business sense to open up a parts/motorcycle plant in North America so we as one of their biggest customers (and growing) won't be wishing we'd bought a Harley when we can't even get clutch cover gaskets?

I think part of what the links I posted mentioned some critical raw materials are in Russia, production of chips in Ukraine and in Israel. With boycotts and war zones, it’s a partial explanation. So having a plant here wouldn’t help unless we can mine our own and restart computer chip manufacturing here again. Anyway, this issue isn’t going to go away quickly. If you can’t get critical components then production of all component parts will go down as manufacturers will not place orders for those gaskets since the units won’t be made. It’s all linked and we live in a linked world economy. HD has the same issues, all manufacturers do.

 

[turbohawk]

I think part of what the links I posted mentioned some critical raw materials are in Russia, production of chips in Ukraine and in Israel. With boycotts and war zones, it’s a partial explanation. So having a plant here wouldn’t help unless we can mine our own and restart computer chip manufacturing here again. Anyway, this issue isn’t going to go away quickly. If you can’t get critical components then production of all component parts will go down as manufacturers will not place orders for those gaskets since the units won’t be made. It’s all linked and we live in a linked world economy. HD has the same issues, all manufacturers do.

Same issues? No, but perhaps some similar ones. Tesla doesn't appear to be hampered by any of the things you just mentioned. They worked on LOCAL (and less foreign) supply chains and that ultimately is the answer and the winners will figure this out and act faster than the competition. Hopefully Triumph, for our sakes, figures this out quickly. No 2024's in showrooms isn't going to sit well for any dealer when there all the pre-24 models are gone.

 

[sikatri]

Same issues? No, but perhaps some similar ones. Tesla doesn't appear to be hampered by any of the things you just mentioned. They worked on LOCAL (and less foreign) supply chains and that ultimately is the answer and the winners will figure this out and act faster than the competition. Hopefully Triumph, for our sakes, figures this out quickly. No 2024's in showrooms isn't going to sit well for any dealer when there all the pre-24 models are gone.

Same issues as in supply shortages that resulted in suspending production at a Pennsylvania plant. Check the link I posted on HD. It’s an interconnected world economy. I would guess if HD has computer chip in their motorcycles they are not manufactured by HD. So yes they will suffer the same shortage issues sooner or later.

 

[sikatri]

None of this relates to the topic of this thread. If y’all want to discuss supply shortages in an interconnected world economy we should just start another thread. LoL. For my part I’ve tried to give y’all some idea of why manufacturers including Triumph and HD have had issues with parts and production of models. Not much point in going around in circles about parts we’re not getting or which motorcycles are having production issues in this thread. As I said earlier, y’all can Google it yourselves and find the reasons.

 

[turbohawk]

None of this relates to the topic of this thread. If y’all want to discuss supply shortages in an interconnected world economy we should just start another thread. LoL. For my part I’ve tried to give y’all some idea of why manufacturers including Triumph and HD have had issues with parts and production of models. Not much point in going around in circles about parts we’re not getting or which motorcycles are having production issues in this thread. As I said earlier, y’all can Google it yourselves and find the reasons.

What are you saying? Google has no certain reasons, just possibilities and conjecture. I'm asking where are the 2024 Tiger's (the reason this thread exists) and essential parts for the currently selling bikes that can't be properly serviced in my area. Do what you will but still no answer from anyone in a building with a Triumph on the roof. Would be nice to get an official press-release so aspiring customers and current ones will have an idea of what's going on and make a plan for more shortages if that is the case.

 

[Vector]

Do not bother asking Triumph North America. They could care less if you are a satisfied customer.

 

[Nightwind15]

2024 Triumph Tiger 1200 Rally Explorer

Triumph Motorcycles has announced its 2024 Triumph Tiger 1200 GT Explorer and Tiger 1200 Rally Explorer models, which include further refinements to the engine, enhanced comfort and ergonomics, improved cornering clearance, reduced seat height with Active Preload Reduction as standard, and new colors. The GT Pro and Rally Pro models will not be available in the U.S. market for 2024.


2024 Triumph Tiger 1200 GT Explorer

At the unveiling of the new bikes, Triumph’s Global Product Marketing Manager James Wood said that, similar to the recent changes made to the Tiger 900 line, when it came to the 2024 Triumph Tiger 1200, the company is “constantly looking for ways to improve and refine our bikes and always looking to make them better for our riders.”

Related: 2024 Triumph Tiger 900 Review | First Ride

The Tiger 1200 line still features the liquid-cooled, transverse inline-Triple with DOHC and 4 valves per cylinder and a T-plane crankshaft with a 1-3-2 firing order. The irregular firing sequence gives the engine the feel and tractable response of a Twin down low and the sporty character of a Triple from the midrange to redline. In our 2023 Tiger 1200 GT Pro review, the Jett Tuning dyno showed 130.2 hp at 9,100 rpm and 81.8 lb-ft of torque at 7,000 rpm to the rear wheel through the bike’s shaft final drive.



When asked at the unveiling if Triumph had considered changing the engine configuration, Wood said the T-plane was a “very conscientious decision … because of the extra character it gives you and because of the extra tractability it gives you at low rpm.”

“That is absolutely something that we love about this bike and something we know that customers love about this bike too,” he said. “So it was never an option to be changed to anything else. It’s a really nice engine, especially for adventure-style riding.”


2024 Triumph Tiger 1200 Rally Explorer

For the 2024 model, Triumph has made further changes to the crankshaft, alternator rotor, and balancer to increase engine inertia, plus some associated engine calibration changes, all with the goal of a smoother and more precise low-rev torque delivery. Triumph says customers will be able to feel the increased smoothness while accelerating or decelerating, especially at low speeds, and that an updated clutch design will create smoother engagement when changing into first gear.


2024 Triumph Tiger 1200 Rally Explorer

Both Triumph Tiger 1200 Explorer models still feature Brembo Stylema braking components, with dual 4-piston monoblock radial front calipers clamping down on 320mm floating discs and a 1-piston rear caliper and 298mm disc. Cornering ABS is standard, as is cornering traction control. The Showa semi-active suspension system has On-Road and Off-Road damping modes, with nine settings ranging from Sport to Comfort within each mode, as well as automatic rear preload adjustment. Travel is 7.9 inches front and rear. The Tiger 1200 Rally Explorer rides on tubeless spoked wheels (21-inch front, 18-inch rear), and the GT Explorer features cast aluminum wheels (19-inch front, 18-inch rear).


2024 Triumph Tiger 1200 GT Explorer

The seat on both bikes has been redesigned with a flatter profile, providing more space for the rider, and the accessory low seat reduces the seat height by 0.8 inch from 33.5 inches to 32.7 inches on the GT Explorer and from 34.5 inches to 33.7 inches on the Rally Explorer. Seat height is reduced an additional 0.78 inch by the new Active Preload Reduction feature, which was revealed in August 2023 and offers the rider greater confidence by reducing the rear suspension preload as the Tiger 1200 slows to a stop simply by pressing the ‘Home’ button on the switch cube for one second.



Related: Triumph Announces Active Preload Reduction for Tiger 1200 Range

The cornering clearance of the Triumph Tiger 1200 GT Explorer model has been increased by lifting the footpeg position and moving them closer to the bike, and a longer clutch lever has also been introduced, providing increased space for riders’ fingers, adding further comfort especially on longer journeys.

The Tiger 1200 Explorer technology package includes the Triumph Blind Spot Radar System, 7-inch TFT instrumentation with integrated My Triumph Connectivity System, Shift Assist, heated grips and seats, tire pressure monitoring, Hill Hold, and a keyless system that includes ignition, steering lock, and fuel cap.


2024 Triumph Tiger 1200 GT Explorer

Both variants of the Triumph Tiger 1200 Explorer models will be available with new colors for 2024. The GT Explorer will be available in Carnival Red, as well as the previous options of Snowdonia White and Sapphire Black. Pricing starts at $23,795. The Rally Explorer will be available in the new Matte Sandstorm and Jet Black options, as well as the popular Matte Khaki. Pricing starts at $24,895.

For more information, visit the Triumph Motorcycles website.

Check out more new bikes in Rider’s 2024 Motorcycle Buyers Guide

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[turbohawk]

So where are the Explorer 2024 models? I can't find any in the USA/Canada.

 

[sikatri]

View attachment 57456So where are the Explorer 2024 models? I can't find any in the USA/Canada.

Likely a production issue. I wonder if the USA / Canadian dealers are holding back on orders. Could be the demand isn’t as high. Has anyone inquired if these models can be special ordered?

 

[turbohawk]

Likely a production issue. I wonder if the USA / Canadian dealers are holding back on orders. Could be the demand isn’t as high. Has anyone inquired if these models can be special ordered?

I have. They have not had any of their orders confirmed. Not sure what this means since they go "mum" after that statement.

 

[sikatri]

I have. They have not had any of their orders confirmed. Not sure what this means since they go "mum" after that statement.

Sounds like parts shortages and they’re waiting for orders to mount up and parts availability to stock up before they start a production line. These are the high end models if I understand correctly and the most tech components.