Installing Center Stand Frustrations

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For most parts and accessories I have had no problems with Triumph or the aftermarket shops. But it is crazy how confusing it is to find out if this is the correct part or not. I will say that it "obviously" is not the right part given how it does not hit the correct stop on the pipe, thus the side stand rests against the center stand when up; and it does not lift the back tire off the ground. Most of the specs for the stands say that part number ending in ...8008 is for VINs up to 377k or something like that and part number ...8145 is for "All Bonneville models" (as it says on some sites) after VIN 377k...

But I have just found a few sites that say the ...8008 is the one for the T100. Aarrrgghhh! :y100:

Hopefully, the dealer I ordered this stand from will exchange it, if need be, without any problems. I'm waiting to hear...

Oh, as to the frustrations with installation--it is also about doing it for the first time. I know it will be much easier and take much less time doing it again--very much like home plumbing jobs.

My guess is that you are correct. The T100 is definitely taller than the the SE. The SE has a smaller front wheel. and is lower to the ground. I do not know about the newer standard Bonneville height vs the T100 height.



 

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Okay, I believe I may be getting closer to a solution. I called the dealership where I got the center stand and according to them, I did get the wrong part (not their fault, I ordered it through ebay and didn't ask about the part number because I thought I already had it figured out). Spoke with Marla in Parts and Services and she said that part number 8145 (the one I ordered) is for the newer Bonnevilles and SEs but not the T100. Part number 8008 is for the T100--even though virtually no websites make that clear! They all reference the VIN numbers without referencing the T100 specifically. I even got an email from Pure Triumph today that said that 8145 IS for the T100. I emailed them back and said "I don't think so." We'll see. Maybe the one I got is mismarked or something or maybe I really do need the 8008. The dealership is going to exchange parts with me for no cost. If the 8008 doesn't fit right then screw it. I'm going back to sans center stand.

I will say that taking the center stand off was MUCH easier than install. I will also say that the new install should go much more smoothly now that I know exactly what to do. I've also learned some tips for easing the spring installation so I think it will go just fine. In any event, I leave for England on Saturday. Perhaps I'll go by Hinckley and air my grievances. :y2:
 

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That makes sense based on what I know about the bike heights. I am glad that you found out. Let me know how the installation of the new center stand goes and if the rear wheel clears the ground. And have a great trip to England!



 

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Great to hear you are making some progress with this. I am sure now that you know how to do it the second time round should not be such an issue.
 

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It is still a PITA no matter how many times you have done it. :y2: However, after the first one, it does get easier.



 

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I forgot to post an update several weeks ago. I received the right center stand from the dealership, they exchanged the other one with no problem. For future reference ...8008 is the correct center stand part number for the T100. I will also say that installing the stand for the second time was much easier. No hitches, even the spring installation wasn't as hard now that I know some tricks. Works perfectly! Chain maintenance is much, much easier. Glad I got it.
 

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Congratulations! I am glad to hear you got the right stand for the bike. It certainly does make chain maintenance easier.



 

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Nice to hear the good news TUP
I figured right from the start that you had the wrong part.
 

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...even the spring installation wasn't as hard now that I know some tricks.

I'm going to be installing the TEC aftermarket center stand on my T100 this evening. Hopefully my installation will be less eventful than yours was! :y13:

What were the tricks you learned for the spring?

EDIT: Aw crap, just saw that this thread is 2 years old. Oh well, still looking for advice...
 

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It helps to have a helper. I installed three Triumph center stands on T100's. I found it easier to hook up the spring, push the stand into place, and hold it while a helper stuck the bolts in the holes.
 

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...I found it easier to hook up the spring, push the stand into place, and hold it while a helper stuck the bolts in the holes.

Thanks for the tip CarlS. That was actually the procedure recommended by TEC as well.

Speaking of which, I wasn't sure if I should start a new thread or continue this one, but here's how my center stand installation went:

I ordered the T100 center stand kit from www.tecbikepartsusa.com (no affiliation, the site was just recommended to me so I gave it a shot...fast shipping for me [from and to California] and pretty good prices) for $120 or so. The kit came with the welded center stand bar assembly, four bolt assemblies, and a rubber stopper to keep the center stand from banging into the left silencer. After I placed the order, they sent me an email with the installation instructions attached. I felt that the instructions were slightly lacking in the spring installation department, but other than that were sufficient.

Step one is to mount the spring to the frame. It was clear to me which hole was to be used to mount it, but I was a little unsure of where exactly the spring should go (e.g. inside of frame, outside of frame, pointing backwards, pointing down). Long story short, I realized that it should be mounted to the outside of the frame and pointing straight backward.

The next step was to hook the spring to the center stand (btw, just in case someone doesn't know, the center stand is mounted so the leg that you stand on to engage it goes to the left, and the U-shape goes around the rear wheel) and loosely fit the bolt and spacer for the right side through the mounting hole. That was simple enough...now's where that helper CarlS mentioned comes in handy. Since it's loosely pinned on the right side, and there's that pesky spring exerting a moment, it's pretty difficult to line up the left-side bolt. I had the wife plug in the bolt while I held the stand in place. After she was done she said "That's it?!"

After both sides were loosely bolted, I tested the travel of the stand to make sure nothing was binding or hitting. Everything was all good, so I firmly tightened both sides.

The only thing left to do was install the second rubber stopper behind the stock one for the side stand. I sprayed mine with some WD-40 and pushed with my palm to get the rubber dingus through the hole, then spun it around to ensure complete engagement. Also, the fourth bolt assembly is used to add a level of adjustment to where the center stand will contact the stopper. I found that the stock hardware did not provide enough clearance, so I added a little rubber piece. That prevents the stand from slamming into the silencer when disengaged.

And that's it! All told, it took me about 30-40 minutes including time to debate with myself as to where the spring should go. Hopefully someone else out there will read this and be able to skip that step, knowing right off the bat where the spring should go.

Cheers! -guj2154

P.S. I took 8 pictures and was going to post them in this, but I couldn't figure out how to upload from my hard drive? I checked the tutorial in the Forum How-To section, but I don't have the "Manage Attachments" option available. I even have Enhanced Attachment Uploading enabled in my user settings. Any ideas?
 

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Good stuff TUP
But I cheated. I bought my stand from the Triumph dealer and he installed it for free WINK
In the reply box, click on the tiny square (third to the right from the smiley face) and go from there to post a pic.
 

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Rocky, the nearest Triumph dealer to me is an hour away and in the dreaded San Fernando valley (Los Angeles area, not exactly convenient). Plus, I get a kick out of getting dirty and banging my knuckles on things for some reason. But good on ya for the free install!
TUP

Now, this is officially :eek:fftopic: but when I click the "Insert Image" icon, the only option available is to link to a URL. I tried linking to my hard drive path, but it did not work. Is there no way to upload directly from local hard drive? I've tried at home using Chrome (may be unsupported), and at work using IE8 (outdated, but unable to get newer version). Could it be a browser issue?
 

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Now, this is officially :eek:fftopic: but when I click the "Insert Image" icon, the only option available is to link to a URL. I tried linking to my hard drive path, but it did not work. Is there no way to upload directly from local hard drive? I've tried at home using Chrome (may be unsupported), and at work using IE8 (outdated, but unable to get newer version). Could it be a browser issue?

This is what you should see. . .

Just to the left of the URL tab it should say computer. Click on the computer tab and you should see the same as in the above image. Click on the select file button and it will access your files.



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Just do as hemibee says and you should be home free.
 

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I did the TEC stand last Fall. The TEC stand has a simpler spring design than the Triumph stand.
 

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Just to the left of the URL tab it should say computer.

Okay, I knew something was fishy....I don't have tabs at all. All I get is a pop-up window that is titled "Insert Image" and the text for URL linking. I'm now certain that it's a browser issue. I would post a picture of what I see but....well, you know...
 

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Congratulations on getting the stand installed. Good job.
 

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Okay, I knew something was fishy....I don't have tabs at all. All I get is a pop-up window that is titled "Insert Image" and the text for URL linking. I'm now certain that it's a browser issue. I would post a picture of what I see but....well, you know...

Oki Koki, option two
At the bottom left under the reply box you will see a Go Advanced tap.Clicking this then scrolling down a tad will give you a Manage Attachments option.
Hit that and follow the prompts and you should be sweet.:y16:
 
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