Old T100 Or New Speed 400

Ash telecaster said:
I have another question, the Scrambler 400x.

I noticed the Scrambler has lower foot pegs and the seat looks more comfortable. That might be a reason for me to consider that bike even though I don't plan on riding off road.

Is the gearing the same?
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I see the gearing is the same but the sprocket is different. I have never been to a dealership that really does test rides, but I shure would like to do a test ride.
 
Many owners are changing sprockets, the 400 is geared very low. I do not use 1st gear.
In 6th RPM’s are fine and 70 MPH is comfortable.
 
Ash telecaster said:
Hi all, I am determined to buy a Triumph. I am struggling between buying a 2010 Bonneville with low miles in good condition or a new Speed 400.

I know many of you will say it depends on what I want but I would rather hear what YOU would do so I can understand why you would go one way or the other.

I appreciate your thoughts.

Thanks!
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A comfortable riding position is all important.
 
If sitting on a cruiser like a Heritage really annoys your tailbone any slightly forward riding position would keep the pressure off that. So really it's a matter of finding the correct seat to peg distance and then how much motor you want to apply to the equation.

Honestly the most comfortable of the 4 bikes I own and ride is my Speed Triple RS. The seat is the plushest of the bunch (sounds weird for a sport bike, but true as far as my lard butt can tell). I think it's due to how wide the seat is compared to my T-120, Thrux R, or Bobber (and the Bobber has a custom medical gel foam seat on it).
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atomsplitter said:
If sitting on a cruiser like a Heritage really annoys your tailbone any slightly forward riding position would keep the pressure off that. So really it's a matter of finding the correct seat to peg distance and then how much motor you want to apply to the equation.

Honestly the most comfortable of the 4 bikes I own and ride is my Speed Triple RS. The seat is the plushest of the bunch (sounds weird for a sport bike, but true as far as my lard butt can tell). I think it's due to how wide the seat is compared to my T-120, Thrux R, or Bobber (and the Bobber has a custom medical gel foam seat on it).
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Nice bike!

Out of my budget at this point in time. Def one to consider down the road. I've already talked myself up from $4k to $5k to $5.5k!
 
Ash telecaster said:
Nice bike!

Out of my budget at this point in time. Def one to consider down the road. I've already talked myself up from $4k to $5k to $5.5k!
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Yeah, I dropped 15 large on that baby.

Depending on where you're located, the Triumph dealer may let you test ride a Speed 400. Eurosport in Ft. Worth does demo rides (I've taken several). So there's no harm in asking.
 
atomsplitter said:
Yeah, I dropped 15 large on that baby.

Depending on where you're located, the Triumph dealer may let you test ride a Speed 400. Eurosport in Ft. Worth does demo rides (I've taken several). So there's no harm in asking.
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So true, I will ask!
 
I've been reading some stuff regarding some issues on the 400's. The most concerning is stalling and starting issues. Have you heard anything regarding that? Have these issues been resolved?
 
Ash telecaster said:
I've been reading some stuff regarding some issues on the 400's. The most concerning is stalling and starting issues. Have you heard anything regarding that? Have these issues been resolved?
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With modern bikes most of the problems that crop up can be fixed with a smart phone or laptop. To meet emiision restrictions across the globe all bike manufacturers run there engines on the lean side for air/fuel ratios so it's not uncommon that the bikes sometimes stumble or hesitate when taking off from a stop. My 2017 T-120 had a too lean condtition that caused it to sputter on take-off, so I installed a Booster Plug that fools the ECU into thinking the air temps is 20 degrees cooler than it actually is, forcing it to add more fuel for the expected denser air. Sputter solved. I could also do the same thing with my laptop and TuneECU.
 
atomsplitter said:
With modern bikes most of the problems that crop up can be fixed with a smart phone or laptop. To meet emiision restrictions across the globe all bike manufacturers run there engines on the lean side for air/fuel ratios so it's not uncommon that the bikes sometimes stumble or hesitate when taking off from a stop. My 2017 T-120 had a too lean condtition that caused it to sputter on take-off, so I installed a Booster Plug that fools the ECU into thinking the air temps is 20 degrees cooler than it actually is, forcing it to add more fuel for the expected denser air. Sputter solved. I could also do the same thing with my laptop and TuneECU.
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Engineered to fail or forced to engineer to fail, that is just unacceptable crap. People who make such lousy decisions need to be permanently removed from the equation and forced to drive problem ridden vehicles the rest of their miserable lives.

Ahh, tune ECU. Thanks for that tidbit of information!
 
Ash telecaster said:
People who make such lousy decisions
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Hey, we elect those idiots in this country.

From what Vector has published on the forum about a software upgrade, it seems a simple remedy. With a new bike comes new problems. When the Rocket III was launched in 2004 the factory had a high number of bikes assembled with the ouput shaft bearing installed backwards causing premature failure of that bearing. The factory paid for the repairs for the next decade to all affected bikes. A software glitch and 15 minutes to fix seems a small issue in comparison.
 
atomsplitter said:
Hey, we elect those idiots in this country.

From what Vector has published on the forum about a software upgrade, it seems a simple remedy. With a new bike comes new problems. When the Rocket III was launched in 2004 the factory had a high number of bikes assembled with the ouput shaft bearing installed backwards causing premature failure of that bearing. The factory paid for the repairs for the next decade to all affected bikes. A software glitch and 15 minutes to fix seems a small issue in comparison.
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As long as it really is that simple. I want to buy fun, not aggravation!

I think I'll go ahead and buy one on Saturday.
 
Ash telecaster said:
As long as it really is that simple. I want to buy fun, not aggravation!

I think I'll go ahead and buy one on Saturday.
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Be sure to ask the dealer if they installed the software update before you take it home.

The problem seems to stem from the immobizer circuit and how the onboard computer is reading it. The bike, to my understanding, runs flawlessly even with the fault code tripping the check engine light from the software. The software glitch creates an issue with restarting the bike, it has no effect if the engine is already running. In either case any problem should be addressed by the dealer at no cost to you (other than time and the gas money to get the bike to the dealer).
 
Holy moly!

Picked up my new Speed 400 today and I am happy to report that it has surpassed all expectations. It's a really fun bike to ride. My wife likes it so much I'll probably have to buy another one if I ever want to ride it!
 
Glad to hear you're really liking the little Speedy.
If you're wife rides as well and you're having a hard time finding your bike, it just might be time for a pair.:Champ:
 
Glad you like your new 400, they are a treat. There's something to be said for light and nimble vs. heavy and powerful. I've owned and loved a Rocket III and there's no denying it was a fantastic bike, but now that I'm older (and feebler) I really like the lightweights in my stable. My Bobber is a blast to tool around on, but the really fun bike is the Speed Triple. It's the lightest, sharpest handling and most powerful of the herd and just puts a grin on this old mug whenever I'm on it. Enjoy your new wheels.
 
Vector said:
She rides a Speedmaster,
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We have been thinking of unloading the Harleys. That leaves with a choice of getting another Speed 400, or a Speed 900, Or a Bonneville!
 
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