Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200 vs FJR 1300

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Did anybody here own both FJR 1300 and Tiger Explorer 1200? Would love to get some insight on how they compare.
 

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I have read quite a bit on where former FJR owners switch to an adventure type bike for the more utilitarian, go almost anywhere ability of an adventure bike. Kind of different bike types. One can go a lot more places than the more road orientated FJR.
 

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That true they designed for different missions and they look different, but to my understanding majority of ADV bikes owners use them as touring machines, as they are too expensive and too heavy to go on dirt. So is Tiger 1200 as good as FJR1300 for fast touring environment?
Also, Qship, I see you've been riding for quite a bit so from your experience are either of those two bikes suitable as a second bike after HD Sportster?
 

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I use mine for touring and have ventured down the odd dirt road. They have a lot of storage on them with the panniers. The 1200 can definitely giddy up and go and carve up a twisty bit of asphalt, maybe not as good as the FJR but that's more of a road bike. It's the upright riding position and longer travel(read plush) suspensions of adventure bikes that bring a lot of people over to them IMHO.
Another bike to possibly check is the Yamaha Super Tenere. Very reliable and lots of aftermarket available.
If your planning on exploring dirt then the tires you would require will limit the road use a little.
If you got the FJR or Tiger, the HD Sportster may end up becoming the second bikeBGRIN
 

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I use mine for touring and have ventured down the odd dirt road. They have a lot of storage on them with the panniers. The 1200 can definitely giddy up and go and carve up a twisty bit of asphalt, maybe not as good as the FJR but that's more of a road bike. It's the upright riding position and longer travel(read plush) suspensions of adventure bikes that bring a lot of people over to them IMHO.
Another bike to possibly check is the Yamaha Super Tenere. Very reliable and lots of aftermarket available.
If your planning on exploring dirt then the tires you would require will limit the road use a little.
If you got the FJR or Tiger, the HD Sportster may end up becoming the second bikeBGRIN
And probably will!! BGRIN
 

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If you got the FJR or Tiger, the HD Sportster may end up becoming the second bikeBGRIN - (y)
I looked also at Super Tenere, but for some reason it felt higher and top heavier than Triumph provided I'm 5'9" only .
 

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It wasn't the low model, but the seat was in the lower position on both motorcycles. Maybe the Super Tenere seat is wider - not sure .
 

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I have read quite a bit on where former FJR owners switch to an adventure type bike for the more utilitarian, go almost anywhere ability of an adventure bike. Kind of different bike types. One can go a lot more places than the more road orientated FJR.
I went from an FJR to an 800 Tiger XRt actually wind coverage is about the same since I sit in the 800 more plus the hand guards. Obviously on the highway the winds affect the 800 a little more although nothing to lose sleep over, seat on 800 is terrible after about 45 minutes. I also notice the chain some vs the shaft drive on FJR. Overall happy since easier to handle and push around plus bags on 800 are better and hold more engine is slightly smoother on 800.
 

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I went from an FJR to an 800 Tiger XRt actually wind coverage is about the same since I sit in the 800 more plus the hand guards. Obviously on the highway the winds affect the 800 a little more although nothing to lose sleep over, seat on 800 is terrible after about 45 minutes. I also notice the chain some vs the shaft drive on FJR. Overall happy since easier to handle and push around plus bags on 800 are better and hold more engine is slightly smoother on 800.
I agree with you on the stock seat. I replaced the seat on my 800 XC with a Sargent seat. Much more comfortable and I go a lot of distance riding.
 

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I agree with you on the stock seat. I replaced the seat on my 800 XC with a Sargent seat. Much more comfortable and I go a lot of distance riding.
Looking at one, as I usually do a lot of distance as well. Unfortunately their heated seat isn't a direct plug in which seems a little ridiculous. Will probably go unheated. My concern is my short legs at 5' 5" and will the Sargent, given increased width cause me to tip toe. With stock I can at least put the balls of my feet on the ground. I will just have to give it a try can always send it back.
 

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You will probably have to slide forward a bit to get the balls of your feet on the grounmd due to the increased width. I can flat foot with the stock seat. I slide forward a bit to flatfoot with the Sargent.
 

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You will probably have to slide forward a bit to get the balls of your feet on the grounmd due to the increased width. I can flat foot with the stock seat. I slide forward a bit to flatfoot with the Sargent.
THX
 

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Hi.
Did anybody here own both FJR 1300 and Tiger Explorer 1200? Would love to get some insight on how they compare.
I've had both a 2007 FJR 1300, and a 2018 Triumph Tiger 1200 XCa. The Triumph is a vastly superior bike. The FJR may have a bit more torque and max HP, but the XCa handles at least as well (better, I think), will cruise just as fast and probably more comfortably, and will carry more when equipped with the large pans. Plus, you get all the ADV benefits with the Triumph.

I will say that as an owner of (way) more than 100 bikes over the last 56 years, the Triumph is firmly tied for first place with one other bike as my all-time favorite. I must admit, though, that I am not at all enamored with Triumph's attitude toward their customers or their service quality here in the US of A.

And, having said all of that, I must readily admit that the XCa has its own few examples of goofy engineering decisions. (To the good side- I've found nothing on it saying, "Lucas".)
 

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I've had both a 2007 FJR 1300, and a 2018 Triumph Tiger 1200 XCa. The Triumph is a vastly superior bike. The FJR may have a bit more torque and max HP, but the XCa handles at least as well (better, I think), will cruise just as fast and probably more comfortably, and will carry more when equipped with the large pans. Plus, you get all the ADV benefits with the Triumph.

I will say that as an owner of (way) more than 100 bikes over the last 56 years, the Triumph is firmly tied for first place with one other bike as my all-time favorite. I must admit, though, that I am not at all enamored with Triumph's attitude toward their customers or their service quality here in the US of A.

And, having said all of that, I must readily admit that the XCa has its own few examples of goofy engineering decisions. (To the good side- I've found nothing on it saying, "Lucas".)
Thank you for sharing. What's you opinion on Super Tenere that was discussed earlier?
 

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Having done many miles on fully-faired 'old school' sports tourers (Yamaha FJ1200, BMW K1200RS and K1300S) and on GS1200s (a bike with similar ergos to the Tiger), the one ace the old sports-tourer holds is the ability to annihilate big miles on fast smooth roads, especially in bad weather. For me, the Tiger is a much better choice as it outscores the sports-tourer in all other departments.
 
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