Triumph TR6RV Tiger Restoration; 26+ Years Sitting

In GB, only an optometrist could diagnose cataracts, and advise treatment. Google says the US equivalent of a British optometrist is a "doctor of optometry"? It was one in the DMV?

If not, everything I've ever read online about US DMV staff, they have trouble walking and chewing gum at the same time - a recent new contributor, his DMV has recorded complete rubbish for the "frame number" of his bike. But they can diagnose cataracts? Mmmm ...


Really? US insurers are happy to insure you with a potential condition affecting your sight? Here in GB, eyesight for driving is eyesight for driving, does not matter what you are driving; if that fail was for one category, you would lose all your entitlements until it was fixed. A condition of any valid vehicle insurance is you are licenced to drive the vehicle.
I should have been clearer. I already knew about the cataract from an eye test years ago (strangely it hasn't gotten much worse in those 3+ years).

The standard driver's license (autos/light trucks) will need to be renewed in 2 years. Until then, when they will probably re-check my eyes, it is still good. Insurance won't learn (hopefully) of the failed test as that was for a new M1 license application.
 
Is it possible to go to your own eye doctor, ask for an exam and contest the DMV if you pass?
Good idea and they did give me a form to take to him to fill out, but they said I still need to pass the DMV test. I'm not too sure what exactly that means. There is a small chance that since I can easily demonstrate my ability to drive safely that they just need a medical explanation for their records. I think I will just get it done (the operation). I've been talking to people (brave people in my book) who say it's nothing. In and out. So I'll make an appointment.
 
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Oh, good question! California DMV is known, here anyway, to be less than optimal, so I'd love to see them put in their place.
"Less than optimal". That is probably the kindest thing ever written about them. It's the 3 hour wait to just get in that chaps my hide but my angst is directed to the politicians that blow massive treasures on some boondoggle or redesign some government buildings instead of fixing the blasted DMV. I might even drive 1 1/2 hours up to Santa Barbara where the lines are 1/50th that of L.A. Nice drive too along the coast. -BA
 
Good idea and they did give me a form to take to him to fill out, but they said I still need to pass the DMV test. I'm not too sure what exactly that means. There is a small chance that since I can easily demonstrate my ability to drive safely that they just need a medical explanation for their records. I think I will just get it done (the operation). I've been talking to people (brave people in my book) who say it's nothing. In and out. So I'll make an appointment.
There maybe a reason that you can’t see through their machine. Call your doctor and discuss what happened with them.
 
I went for distance lenses in both eyes, and glasses for reading because I'm used to glasses after 50 years. So my glasses are clear glass on top and reading correction on bottom. The first thing I noticed after the first eye was how yellow everything was with the other eye, while the corrected eye saw white whites.
That's an interesting option. I am used to reading glasses now so that might work. Clear glass on top and reading below. Hmmm.
 
I wear trifocals with clear glass on top.
 
I wear trifocals with clear glass on top.
Did you have cataract surgery or you just have great distance vision? Don't they have some sort of 1/2 size lens for this type of situation?
 
I have yet to have my cataract surgery.My distance vision is fine. I have to have corrective lenses for reading and intermediate ranges.I also use this intermediate correction for shooting.
 
Got my cataract taken care of (insurance covered it 100%) and now I see 20/15 in that eye. Went to Dept. Motor Vehicles and took the driving test and got my license!!!! Finally!!! Only had to wait a few months.
Bought an Emgo Tachometer to go with the original Smiths Speedo, got a new rear brake switch and have a seat cover in the mail from across the country. Hope it's something I can do with a perfect result. Unfortunately it has the TRIUMPH logo on the back. I'd feel OK with that if Triumph was paying me for the mobile advertisement. When I get it I'll see what it takes to remove or mask this script.
Bike is running very well indeed but I see sparks off the ignition points (bad condenser?) and it sometimes misses a downshift if I don't press the shifter just right 5-4 and 4-3. Oh, and the headlight bulb that I replaced is already shot, both filaments. Next up; headlight basket and handlebars.
About 3-400 miles on it now so I changed the oil again and it looked fine, nothing in the screens and nothing on the large magnet I put in the oil tank (chamber?), oil looked ok held in the sun- no flecks of metal. BA out004.JPGNeeds paint!!!!
 
Sound like things are on the way UP!
 
Thank you, yes indeed. Soon property values in the neighborhood will be creeping back up.
 
cataract taken care of
got my license
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seat cover
TRIUMPH logo on the back. I'd feel OK with that if Triumph was paying me for the mobile advertisement. When I get it I'll see what it takes to remove or mask this script.
It's the old logo. However, if you send your photo. of your bike to Hinckley, they might agree to arrange removal of the logo ... :cool:

see sparks off the ignition points (bad condenser?)
Even good condensers allow some sparks.

headlight bulb that I replaced is already shot, both filaments.
Assuming your bike has an original lens/reflector, the bulb base that fits is BPF (British Pre Focus). That was obsolete when Lucas supplied Triumph to fit it to your bike new. It has not become any less obsolete in the past 45 years so fewer and fewer replacements are still required world-wide, so they will be made in short runs, as cheaply as possible, probably in a third world country. Two other options:-

. BPF LED replacement; 'best' seem to be the type with eight LED on each side, not with only a single big LED on each side - 'best' because the Lucas lens is still rubbish.

. Replace the whole headlight with something that takes a modern bulb; the lens's 7" diameter has been an automotive standard for ever so plenty of choices. However, if your bike's vibration is what killed the existing bulb, it still might kill a modern filament bulb. :( If you decide to go this route, post, because there are a couple of gotchas to be aware of.

Also check the bulb cover has a good return to battery +ve. Even an original cover on your bike would have had a Red (originally) wire connected into a loop rivetted to the cover. The wire from the loop connects into other Red wires inside the headlamp shell, use your meter set to Ohms to check for good continuity (essentially zero Ohms) between the bulb cover loop and the battery +ve terminal, in case there is a break or other poor connection causing a 'bad ground' between headlight bulb and battery +ve.

Next up; headlight basket
By "basket", if you mean the headlight shell, consider fitting a '73-'78 one? That shell is longer front-to-back (anything is longer front-to-back than the flatback shell :rolleyes:); if the '72 mountings allow it to fit without the rear of the shell hitting anything, the headlight and three idiot lights will swap straight over, more room for everything Lucas/Triumph stuffed in the shell, the headlight on/off switch will fit in the hole for the '73-'78 lights switch.

changed the oil again and it looked fine, nothing in the screens and nothing on the large magnet I put in the oil tank (chamber?), oil looked ok held in the sun- no flecks of metal.
Consider a proper filter, either in place of the "screen" in the bottom of the frame or in the return hose from engine back to frame? Twins with "screens", oil changes recommended every 1500 miles; triples with a proper filter as standard, same recommended oils, changes recommended every 3000/4000 miles.
 
Got my cataract taken care of (insurance covered it 100%) and now I see 20/15 in that eye. Went to Dept. Motor Vehicles and took the driving test and got my license!!!! Finally!!! Only had to wait a few months.
Bought an Emgo Tachometer to go with the original Smiths Speedo, got a new rear brake switch and have a seat cover in the mail from across the country. Hope it's something I can do with a perfect result. Unfortunately it has the TRIUMPH logo on the back. I'd feel OK with that if Triumph was paying me for the mobile advertisement. When I get it I'll see what it takes to remove or mask this script.
Bike is running very well indeed but I see sparks off the ignition points (bad condenser?) and it sometimes misses a downshift if I don't press the shifter just right 5-4 and 4-3. Oh, and the headlight bulb that I replaced is already shot, both filaments. Next up; headlight basket and handlebars.
About 3-400 miles on it now so I changed the oil again and it looked fine, nothing in the screens and nothing on the large magnet I put in the oil tank (chamber?), oil looked ok held in the sun- no flecks of metal. BA outView attachment 49144Needs paint!!!!
Glad the cataract surgery went well. Vision is priceless. Sounds like all is looking up. Congratulations.
 
Excellent news, great report all around.
 
Yes Rudie, original equipment electrical. Lucas 370 style bulb, 45/35W. The replacement was a "Delco" marked bulb.
What I am thinking is that the voltage it too high, thus the huge sparks at the points and the bulb failure. I'll go out and check this today.
Your information is exactly what I needed, thanks a lot! I may go the LED route if prices are reasonable. Will check the ground wire back to battery as you suggest.
Somebody mentioned in another thread that the longer headlight shell doesn't fit my year and also I have a 100% stock bike (except the mufflers) and may just keep it that way if practical.
Oil filter is way up on the list of needed items. Thanks again, Brian
 
thinking is that the voltage it too high, thus the huge sparks at the points and the bulb failure. I'll go out and check this today.
Meter set to Volts connected across the battery, raise engine rpm slowly; when Volts stop rising, should not be any higher than just over 15V (max. 15.2V/15.3V depending which manual you read), could be a little lower (14.7V~14.8V is still OK), around 3,500~4,000 rpm.

Raise rpm, Volts should stay the same, only fall when rpm falls below that 3,500~4,000.
 
Meter set to Volts connected across the battery, raise engine rpm slowly; when Volts stop rising, should not be any higher than just over 15V (max. 15.2V/15.3V depending which manual you read), could be a little lower (14.7V~14.8V is still OK), around 3,500~4,000 rpm.

Raise rpm, Volts should stay the same, only fall when rpm falls below that 3,500~4,000.
Thanks Rudie. I just went out to check the voltage but my digital meter was all over the place, not readable at all. I did notice momentary (1/20 second) readings of 15-18 which means nothing. So I decided to look at the battery acid level to see if it was being "cooked off" by excessively high voltage. Nowhere to be seen! So low, it was behind the label somewhere. Also Voltage with engine off was ~11 and with key on <10. So I guess I need to hire a crew to find my other analog meter (last seen when "digital" was something awful that happened in the Dr. office). But I am convinced that voltage is unregulated so I need to find the corroded connections (obviously on the Diode). That whole area was totally messed up when the battery finally ate through it's case sitting for 28-32 years outside. I really was remiss in not dealing with this before and was sort of hoping I wouldn't have to do anything electrical! So now I can start dealing. -BA
 
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Thanks Rudie. I just went out to check the voltage but my digital meter was all over the place, not readable at all. I did notice momentary (1/20 second) readings of 15-18 which means nothing. So I decided to look at the battery acid level to see if it was being "cooked off" by excessively high voltage. Nowhere to be seen! So low, it was behind the label somewhere. Also Voltage with engine off was ~11 and with key on <10. So I guess I need to hire a crew to find my other analog meter (last seen when "digital" was something awful that happened in the Dr. office). But I am convinced that voltage is unregulated so I need to find the corroded connections (obviously on the Diode). That whole area was totally messed up when the battery finally ate through it's case sitting for 28-32 years outside. I really was remiss in not dealing with this before and was sort of hoping I wouldn't have to do anything electrical! So now I can start dealing. -BA
Edit; At the risk of sounding like a time-sink or a klutz, This new lens in my eye took away my near vision and after re-checking the electrolyte level wearing readers it was only down in the rightmost cell.
I bought a $3 voltmeter (digital is all they have) and got the same gibberish, IE. not readable. How does one read the voltage on one of these old bikes? Thanks, Brian
 
check the voltage but my digital meter was all over the place, not readable at all.
I bought a $3 voltmeter (digital is all they have) and got the same gibberish, IE. not readable. How does one read the voltage on one of these old bikes?
Most likely cause is neither meter has emi (electro magnetic interference) protection; :( running engine on an old British bike, HT is tens of thousands of Volts, usual source of emi.

You should not have to spend much on a meter to get emi protection, but three bucks is probably too little ... Just make sure whoever sells you your next meter agrees it does have the protection. Also ensure any new meter has good calibration - it should measure 12.6V connected across a well-charged lead-acid battery, including AGM and gel; higher is not better, it is poor meter calibration, which makes it harder to use its returns for fault diagnosis. :(

Also Voltage with engine off was ~11 and with key on <10.
The battery is very flat, in need of an overnight trickle-charge at least; remember trickle-charge should not be any more than one-tenth of the battery's Amp-hour rating; i.e. if the battery is 10 Ah, it should not be charged any faster than 1 Ah. If that doesn't get the battery up to ~12.5V with the key on, you need a new battery.

I am convinced that voltage is unregulated
Mmmm ... like tightening head bolts with vise grips and being "convinced" they are torqued correctly? ;)

corroded connections (obviously on the Diode).
Possibly ... Lucas and Triumph (and BSA) did the oif Zener ground path very poorly. :(

Zener in the standard OIF position, you will have to remove the timing side sidepanel and air filter, Zener is mounted in the leading edge of the air inlet (it is mounted on the airbox to save the cost of the dry frame heatsink ... :rolleyes:). However, it was either Friday afternoon or the designer was on a promise that night, because the (original) return is the ring terminal with multiple Red wires attached to a battery carrier bolt; Lucas had done this better on the dry frame models for years so who knows why this was signed off. :(

As you are in there anyway, wise to unbolt the Zener from any mounting, clean off any corrosion on the side that goes against the mounting, the mounting itself and the Zener's thread. The Zener's side needs to make good physical contact with any heatsink, you can buy special heat-conducting paste, that'll also ensure corrosion does not reform ... or I have always used graphite grease, that is also useful for other things ...

You can take airbox and battery carrier to pieces, scrub off any corrosion where they and the Red wires ring terminal are in contact and reassemble it (with smears of graphite grease between?); around San Diego and similar, corrosion probably won't be a problem for some time. Otoh, if the Zener is not being made redundant by a reg./rec., I prefer to: drill another 3/16" i.d. hole near the Zener, make up a Red wire to go from the hole to an existing Red wires snap connector, 3/16" i.d. ring terminal on one end of the wire, bullet on the other end, connect the ring terminal to the airbox with a 10-32 or M5 bolt or screw and nut, bullet in the snap connector.
 
Thanks Rudie, I printed this up and will use it when I tackle this issue.
Got your point about guessing that the voltage it too high but no vise grips here, only Whitworth spanners (where applicable).
One thing I did notice that was strange was that when I switched the meter to VAC I got a reading in the 20s, still bouncing around but actually readable. This makes me wonder if the diode is working/connected properly. Will get a better meter and find out. I'm a little surprised that this meter doesn't have EMI protection. It was $80 18 years ago and is designed specifically for vehicles and has tach and point dwell functions.
Battery on a tender overnight and voltage reads 13.19v with the $80 meter.
I'll let it set for a few hours and recheck with both meters.

Another observation; I hear clicking in the secondary circuit somewhere, like arcing in one of the plug wires. I suppose this might contribute to the meter problems. Thanks again, Brian
 
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